Rejoice! Sam DM to be added and 29.99 price announced!

[SALvation]

Thanks to Rodzilla and Seriously for the news.

We were just getting our campaign for DM off the ground and Croteam has now announced that deathmatch will be added to the game via patch after release.

Also, they have announced that the PC version will retail for $29.99 and should be released in October.

Hopefully Croteam planned this all along and 2K Games' woefully poor PR work is the only thing to blame here. Either way, this is excellent news.

[TurlockJC]

thats good news right there:wootrock: :wootrock: :wootrock:

[BobtheCkroach]

That's a sexah price! Thanks a lot Rod and the gang! :thumbs:

[FUS1ON]

That is great news and i'll run down and buy SS2 just as soon as the patch comes out. I'm sorry, but I get a little skeptical when I hear the word patch.

[NightBreed]

:wootrock: That's some awesome news !!!! Thanks to all !!! :wootrock:

[Twin])I2agon]

DM-maps and stuff will also be in the patch ? It has to be real big then ...

No, sorry i dont like this.

[EXEcution]

)I2agon']DM-maps and stuff will also be in the patch ? It has to be real big then ...

No, sorry i dont like this.
I agree. There is also the quality of Deathmatch Croteam is willing to provide (put time and resources into) seeing as how the Xbox version will probably not support the patch.

Yes its better than no deathmatch at all, but I don't want to be playing sh*t either.

[Slash]

I won't belive it till I see it. I went through the hoops with Croteam a few years ago concerning the promised "net-code" patch. I installed and tested several versions on one of my servers and you guys know the rest. If it comes out, I'll bet it's 6 months minimum, post game release. It'll be 4 years in February since the 2nd Encounter was released and the DM isn't ready yet? :dunno:

[OUTLAWS DirtGod]

That is great news and i'll run down and buy SS2 just as soon as the patch comes out. I'm sorry, but I get a little skeptical when I hear the word patch.
Same here Sho.....see it when the patch come out

[SALvation]

We definitely have the right to be concerned considering the disaster that was the 1.5 patch, but I think that this is as good as we can expect right now. Patch size is not an issue since we download demos that are regularly 1G+.

Hopefully there is work that is already done towards DM and it won't be long after release that we see something. For $29.99, I'll buy the game and enjoy a little co-op while I wait. Croteam shouldn't have anything else to do after release so hopefully DM gets their full attention.

[UncleSam]

At least there is a glimmer of hope....

[GOTHIKO]

Yea hopefully it aint a disaster

[OUTLAWS Tip]

I'll be waiting till the people that bought the game tell me the patch for DM is available and works.

See ya in 2K6 hopefully.
:rolleyes:

[SASQUATCH]

I am glad to hear the news but because of so many Promises I will wait until the DM patch is added before I buy it.

Thanks to Rodzilla for making it happen and to all who have been fans for so many years cheers.

BTW WTG SAL for starting the thread even though I didn't get the chance to sign because I been out in the city all day.

[MR. SLiK]

in a patch after release, but will it be the first one?

[Nitro]

I hope SS2 has full functional color codes like SS:SE has or else that would suck.
This is good news though :)

[OUTLAWS The Machine]

LOL. waiting for another patch. I love it.

[Dangerous Dan]

hey hey guys, the 1.5 patch was released, remeber how good people said it was? ;)

[Rodzilla]

It's nice to see there's at least a few of you who do something other than bitch about a game franchise.

The rest though...still bitching about a patch for a game from years ago, bitching as if it was the end of the world about no DM in the game, and then you find out your world is cured and you're still bitching....wow...

[Ra\/en]

croteam is not perfect rodzilla.... and neither are their fans.

[Free Styler]

You know it's not really the bitching that is ennoying to me.Btw i havent really bitched towards you or croteam anyways.
It's just the fact that you "classifie"us DM players like casulties of war.
"like"Bah their a bunch of whinners and can't see the real story behind sam.
All gods raise and bow down for coop.The real money maker in this screwed up world of yours.
Thing is,if this community would be a bit larger...say 20 000 people playing Dm.
then the story would all be about coop players not having what they want.
But let's be realistic and take what are facts right now.
Maybe the lifes of people on these forums are unimportant to you or sometin.
But people who have been told or lead to beleive that DM would be included for 2 years and now are told that it will not...well actully maybe in a future patch is just plain ennoying to be quite frank with ya.
To be honest i dont have anything against you rod.But i dont care how much money croteam makes or what you think of me.

All and all some people can't contain there emotions like others can.
But let's be realistic.
False promises are not something i personaly like.
I don't know about you.Yet again i have to say i am not croteam and wont really say anything bad against them because i dont know the real deals behind all this.
But this is all put in a drama kinda way.No deathmatch..ohhh ya DM will be added in a future patch(batterie not included)Patch 2.07 or 2.5?
At this point you just dont know what to expect.
I think people all these years have been waiting for a improved DM where a bigger community of sam players could grow.And getting the bad news was just a bummer for a lot members here including me.

I'm still optimistic tho and will wait until the patch to buy the game.
If it's fun good.If it's not so be it.

[Dangerous Dan]

It's nice to see there's at least a few of you who do something other than bitch about a game franchise.

The rest though...still bitching about a patch for a game from years ago, bitching as if it was the end of the world about no DM in the game, and then you find out your world is cured and you're still bitching....wow...
rod, if you knew what people were actually talking about when it comes to the 1.5 patch, then maybe you would have reacted differently. You see, to me, the 1.50 patch it a running joke - in fact, you can't really say the phrase "waiting for the patch" around here without getting a good chuckle - it's lost most of its negative connotations.

[Rodzilla]

rod, if you knew what people were actually talking about when it comes to the 1.5 patch, then maybe you would have reacted differently. You see, to me, the 1.50 patch it a running joke - in fact, you can't really say the phrase "waiting for the patch" around here without getting a good chuckle - it's lost most of its negative connotations.

If something has that high of a meaning around here, my bad for not realizing it, I just find it uncommon for people to complain about some things so incessantly.

On another note, I think it's funny how whenever it comes to Co-op and DM it's like a damn gang war. Yo man you can't be bouncin that Co-op **** up in heeeere, we're the CRIBS DM PLAYERS YO, don't mess with us or we'll bust a cap in yo ass. Come on, get real. It's not like someone liking Sam more for its co-op doesn't mean they can't ever play DM. Most people that enjoy DM find games that are more devoted to it, such as the UT series or Quake (here's a shocker - I was on one of the top UT99 CTF clans, Carpe Imperium, for two years, and was recruited because of my DM skills *gasp* the evil Rodzilla has contaminated the holy game of deathmatch).

I really hope that one day, whether it be today or several years from now, you realize how stupid all these arguments were, and realize that I haven't been "kissing Croteam's ass" at all. I've merely been doing what anyone in journalism has to do - maintain an even point of view on all perspectives, see all angles, and consider things from everyone's perspective (that includes TEH EVIL PUBLISHER, which determined there wasn't time to add DM to the game before release without sacrificing quality). I really could care less from my own point of view, but for your sake I hope you at least broaden your own perspective on certain things.

[FUS1ON]

I agree Rod that we have some members that can get pretty riled up and go to extremes, but the thing is we are not journalist. We are the people that plunk down our cash so they can pay their bills so we can afford to be the un-silent majority. If we decide to more critical than you, we can. We don't have to worry about them cutting us off and not answering our emails.

The Sam community was asked and have given information to make the game better and recieved back an attempt at well, i'll call it 'something'. Things like fixing the custom map rotation problem in v1.07 and adding auto-download could have and should have been fixed in a patch and yet some of these poor lost souls are still waiting on the 'patch' to fix the game. Many of us have moved on to other games and given up on Sam. Croteam can earn back some rep points by doing what they say. Actions speak louder than words.

I also agree there is a Co-op'ers vs Dm'ers thing, we need to remember we all Sam fans and on the same side. The Co-op players have had to deal with the crappy netcode too!

[Dangerous Dan]

Yo man you can't be bouncin that Co-op **** up in heeeere!!!! ;)

I won't let that quote die now, I like it too much :P


But seriously - I have nothing against the "Co-op Crew" (as i will now affectionately refer to your posy ;)). I think the root of our conflicts simply comes from miscommunication. Most of us fragmatch players hold Serious Sam's fragmatch experience so highly that speaking negatively of it, or dismissing it, comes as an insult to the highest degree - and as we've seen in the past, it's enough to start a "turf war." And I think much of the same can be seen form the opposite side - us fragmatch "hoodlums" dismissing Co-op as the less fixating feature.

But honestly, I've enjoyed Co-op similarely to the way you've enjoyed DM in the past.

I guess the reality is that I'm stuborn when it comes to some things - well, most things - but believe it ot not, I understand the actions of "TEH EVIL PUBLISHER," and truthfully, I'm anxious to see what a 100% focus on single player release turns out like, seeing how I've always enjoyed the story mode as it is. And besides, I have alot of online gaming other than Serious Sam to attend to in the near future. The Nintendo DS Wifi Connection launches in a few months and I'm pretty stoaked to play Mario Kart online come November, so i think i can wait a few months for fragmatch (and i won't get distracted from the single player this time either :D)

[OUTLAWS Tip]

It's nice to see there's at least a few of you who do something other than bitch about a game franchise.

The rest though...still bitching about a patch for a game from years ago, bitching as if it was the end of the world about no DM in the game, and then you find out your world is cured and you're still bitching....wow...

Well this is my first response to you Rod ever. I'll believe the world is cured when I see it. Do you still play Sam almost every day? Do you play Deathmatch? I DO so it is VERY IMPORTANT to me.

If they don't have it or don't get it right I won't buy their product. I don't care if they don't care but that is the fact Jack.

You Bitch about our Bitching but you are talking to the people that actually still play the game.

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End Rant
:D

[Rodzilla]

What I was trying to say, Shogun, was that when I post here I am merely trying to even the playing field so that all sides are seen. Since the side some people feverishly stake down is usually over-covered by the time that happens, you see me making strong counter-claims, without really getting opinionated (i.e. "DM sucks so it shouldn't be in the game"). All I'm saying is that maybe eventually people will realize they're not arguing with someone else's opinions, and are just arguing against, as might be heard on air, "The rest of the story."

[Asian Invasian]

i dont get it, but every co-op player ive played thinks they can own me in DM, but uh none of them have yet to break 5 kills to 30...
/end cockiness :P

[FUS1ON]

EDIT: Nvm, continue on.

[Asian Invasian]

EDIT: Nvm, continue on.:rofl:
what was before the edit :P

[Nitro]

All I ask for is a working DM netcode from Croteam for once. Holy **** is that asking so much?

[ME BIGGD01]

It’s been awhile since I posted here at GM so why not start in this thread to show my fellow GM’s that I have returned home.



Rodzilla, at this point you can imagine my opinion of you but maybe I never really mentioned what it is that makes me want to crack you in the rib cage when you post. I am sure our feelings are mutual.



Regardless of the BS that happened at the serious forums, you come here and spew the same stuff here. When ever I see you saying that people are complaining or bitching I see you are still the same person I dislike.



I quote you here…

“I really hope that one day, whether it be today or several years from now, you realize how stupid all these arguments were, and realize that I haven't been "kissing Croteams ass" at all. I've merely been doing what anyone in journalism has to do - maintain an even point of view on all perspectives, see all angles, and consider things from everyone's perspective (that includes TEH EVIL PUBLISHER, which determined there wasn't time to add DM to the game before release without sacrificing quality). I really could care less from my own point of view, but for your sake I hope you at least broaden your own perspective on certain things.”



I would like to point out after several times of you saying people are whining, bitching, or complaining that you fail to see what people are actually saying. Arguments have been started? Where? You feel you have the right to say someone should not mention the bad things from Croteam and broken promises because it’s whining and bitching but actually people are just mentioning the reality of this company. It is you that seems to have a problem with people talking about the truth and history of such. You mentioned complaining again in this thread when some one mentioned “LOL. waiting for another patch. I love it.” (Which was a pretty funny statement imo) but you fail to see that every crack or comment pertaining to the same thing has true meaning and comes from people who were promised something that they never got. I think anything that happens bad in history will always be brought up in the future so people do not make the same mistake. You may be ok with Croteams business practice but that does not mean others will be or have to be. After reading many of your previous posts, you are thinking I am complaining about Croteam when I am strictly talking the facts or and opinions from the facts of bad Croteams failure to do what they promised to it’s customers.



Now rod, I would like to comment on your ass kissing comment you made. I can not explain it but if you aren’t bending over kissing Croteams ass, I would say if not, you are definitely bent over doing something. Let’s be realistic and look at the past starting with you banning people from your forum because people were speaking their mind regarding where the promised patch is. Back then you considered that bitching also when the game was not 4 years old. This comment “I've merely been doing what anyone in journalism has to do “really makes me wonder where or how you call anything you do journalism. I mean really, do you consider writing anything up about serious Sam special? That is like saying Execution, Asian Invasion (members of GM) are the Steven Spielsberg’s of Gaming Videos. I don’t mean to insult or offend you on anything you may be making a career out of but damn, there are too many people with websites today claiming to be journalist. Regardless, of all that, any journalist who disputes what people are actually saying and dismisses anything that disagrees with you as wrong. You spend too much time justifying Croteam and suggest you move on and let the free people speak their mind without you posting they are complaining and stop bitching about a game that should be considered old. You are no one to recommend that advice to anyone.



Honestly I do not care about any particular company that makes games since they are a dime a dozen. There are too many good games out there or coming out to be worried about some half ass company. I do not think Croteam is the only company that has screwed people in a particular game because I have felt this way about many well known makers such as EA and others. I know things happen but if I spend money I worked for and buy a product, it better be and run exactly as it is supposed to. In reality, this will happen and a long time ago I decided to return the screwing to the company that has screwed me. My return screw is usually in another release of their product and that’s all I am going to say about that.





With that said, I will now comment on my view of Serious Sam II. I think it may be a fun game regardless of the lack of death match. I do not see it lasting long on the must play list in anyone’s game collection. I honestly feel that Croteam has made a smart decision with their concept of the game and the audience which will make them more money. Am I happy there is no DM? No I am not but I am not surprised either considering the company dealing with this game. I have said it before, this game is targeted for the game console market and that is where the money is. It’s strictly a business decision, and they will make money. At least the pc game is priced well considering how much games are going for. I can not comment on how it will run after release and if people will have more net code problems as we did or do in the older versions.



As far as Croteam releasing a patch with DM, I am insulted they even would use the word “patch” before the game is released. If I was to bet money on it, I would say this is BS and recommend not to hold your breathe on it. It seems, they realize how unhappy people are after the news of no DM and are trying to prevent more negative chit chat about the game and company. If you ask me, I think if it was true, they would have mentioned this DM patch crap when they mention there was no DM. I am sorry, I don’t believe the hype. To me it sounds pathetic but I expect nothing less, nothing more from them. Like others have mentioned, I may buy the game but not until the patch and DM are fully integrated. Then again I still do not plan on buying this game. There are so many good games to choose from today and play that I wish Game Mecca would get their act together and become what we use to be with another game we all are playing with our clans and community as a community.

[Goober]

It's nice to see there's at least a few of you who do something other than bitch about a game franchise. ...If I remember correctly, most people weren't bitching, just saying that no DM no spend money(that's stating a fact, not bitching). I didn't start bitching until you showed up talking with that pompous, holier than thou, bow down before me, for I AM the only true connection to Those that are called Croteam.



The rest though...still bitching about a patch for a game from years ago, bitching as if it was the end of the world about no DM in the game, and then you find out your world is cured and you're still bitching....wow...You must have never even tried the 1.50 patch....and until I see the wound healed (ie: netcode) I will not believe "my" world is cured.


Edit: @BIGGS....glad to see you're back man! Nice starter post!

[Pure_Evil]

:watchmovi




feaverishly :wave: to BIGG's, welcome back :thumbs:

[SASQUATCH]

Good to have you back Bigg's it's been awhile and I haven't heard from you.

[Ra\/en]

hey, shogun, why did you change it? i agreed with you.

[SALvation]

FYI - I wouldn't automatically assume the DM patch will have the same fate as the old 1.5 patch. There were a completely different set of circumstances back then. When the 1.5 patch was in testing, it became obvious that the netcode needed a complete rewrite to work how everyone expected it to. Basic things like riding elevators in "The Hole" were completely broken.

There was no way Croteam was going to spend the time and manpower doing the rewrite and then supporting it when at the time Sam 2 development was already under way. It would have only benefited a few hundred people and it just didn't make sense.

I have to assume the netcode for Sam 2 has to be much improved. In our interview with Goran last year, he already said that it was completely rewritten from the ground up at that time, so they have had over a year just to tweak it. Add the fact that 16 player co-op is being highly touted, therefore, 16 player DM shouldn't be a problem since there is alot less processing needed for just DM (no enemies or scripting to code for, just keep track of the 16 players).

Of course, all of this is unknown since nobody has played the game in an unmonitored setting where we can bang on it in our own time and try to break it. That's what the beta is for. The beta should be starting soon so the pieces should all start falling into place within the next few weeks.

Personally, with the announcement of the $30 tag, planned DM via patch, and 40 levels to friendly fire your ass for a couple of months, I'll be buying the game.

[Twin])I2agon]

Patch size is not an issue since we download demos that are regularly 1G+.

When i said "big" i ment that it will be alot of work for them and I just dont think they will want to put alot of time into it. An important aspect for good DM are the maps. It takes pretty long to create a good map. Now, how many good maps are there for sam ?
Like 5, which came with the game. The gold maps suck, and i also never played any good selfmade map. Usually im optimistic but in this case ... ;)

[EXEcution]

[font=Verdana] I mean really, do you consider writing anything up about serious Sam special? That is like saying Execution, Asian Invasion (members of GM) are the Steven Spielsberg’s of Gaming Videos.[font]

You made some good points Biggs. I actually do consider what I make special to a degree as does AI otherwise we wouldn't be doing it, same prolly goes for Rod. We all try to make something that people will read or watch and have something positive to say about it.

Also Speilberg is know for his directing skill which isn't required in making a frag video. :D And yes AI and I are certainly not the best game video editors and makers.

[DiTomasso]

Nice pricetag :) , will take the risk........:D

:eek: Hi BiggD:D

[Asian Invasian]

You made some good points Biggs. I actually do consider what I make special to a degree as does AI otherwise we wouldn't be doing it, same prolly goes for Rod. We all try to make something that people will read or watch and have something positive to say about it.

Also Speilberg is know for his directing skill which isn't required in making a frag video. :D And yes AI and I are certainly not the best game video editors and makers.im working on it :P
and btw nice post biggs :)

[FUS1ON]

hey, shogun, why did you change it? i agreed with you.

Thanks and I edited it because I did not want to take this thread off topic. That would have made me just as guilty as AS and it's not my place to correct him although someone should.

[Rodzilla]

until you showed up talking with that pompous, holier than thou, bow down before me, for I AM the only true connection to Those that are called Croteam.

Quote?

[Asian Invasian]

Thanks and I edited it because I did not want to take this thread off topic. That would have made me just as guilty as AS and it's not my place to correct him although someone should.
Exe made me do it.......
your brining me off topic here :P


Quote?Its not as much as a quote but your hinting in that direction fool...

[Rodzilla]

Its not as much as a quote but your hinting in that direction fool...

So quote where I "hinted" at it then.

[EXEcution]

Just now!

Sometimes you just need to read in between the lines.

[Rodzilla]

I did read in between the lines, and I found baseless exaggerations. Unless, of course, you can actually find where I did such a thing, as I asked. And I fail to see how it happened "Just now," and how asking where I hinted at myself being the only person ever in contact with Croteam is the same as actually saying it.

[Pure_Evil]

I did read in between the lines, and I found baseless exaggerations. Unless, of course, you can actually find where I did such a thing, as I asked. And I fail to see how it happened "Just now," and how asking where I hinted at myself being the only person ever in contact with Croteam is the same as actually saying it.
why are you here? at first it sounded like you were bringing something to the table, now you're starting to like like a

[SALvation]

Jesus...can all of you shut the hell up and get back on topic? I'm tired of seeing this same crap over and over and over...year after damn year.

This thread and forum is to talk about Sam, and if you can't understand that, use the ignore feature or go somewhere else.

[Rodzilla]

Yes, it happens over and over again, which is why I'm trying to end it. If people are going to launch personal attacks and claims at me, it would at least help to have some proof to back it up, and I'm still waiting for a quote that doesn't exist.

[::: DARK PSI :::]

Screw Death Match.. just start a provoking topic here at GM! :D

BTW guys, get a grip.. IT IS ONLY A GAME! :rolleyes:

(Granted if you start insulting Formula 1, your gibs will be all over the front of my race car!!) :cool:

[SALvation]

I am l33t.
There. Happy?

Here's a question about DM:

I wonder if the maps from Sam SE DM will be compatible with Sam 2 DM. It would be cool to see our old favorites updated with all of the new features that the new engine has. Discuss...

[BobtheCkroach]

There. Happy?

Here's a question about DM:

I wonder if the maps from Sam SE DM will be compatible with Sam 2 DM. It would be cool to see our old favorites updated with all of the new features that the new engine has. Discuss...

Good idea! You know, I never got into SS:SE much, mainly b/c there was so much negative input about it by the time I got to GM (camping, etc, etc, etc), but perhaps I'll get involved in this new one w/ all you guys and you guys can totally pwn me b/c it's a well known fact that while I thoroughly enjoy FPS, I suck at the in MP (ask pj).

Either way, though, it's always good to bring over old maps, and there were a few maps that I did play MP in and they were a lot of fun, so here's hopin' they can be included.

PS - Thanks for attempting to stop the bickering, SAL.

[Rodzilla]

I can pretty much say with 99.9% certainty that SS:FE/SS:SE maps won't be compatible with the new game. It's a brand new engine.

However, I'm sure someone will re-make them in the new editor.

[OUTLAWS WHOCARES]

No no please keep up the the nonsense drama over a video game. All it is doing is giving me more and more info to write my thesis on.

[T I K]

Its good 2 hear about the $$ tag and the DM,....ah DM patch to be added !!(insert the crossed fingers icon here)

Claps hands, WoOTaH n thx to those and for the efforts of all, who either helped or made this decision come to be !! ;) ie. Croteam, its Devs and its Pubs, Rod, Sal, all others who made their views known and of course, all the communitys of SS and all the playahs of SS Coop and DM alike !!! :thumbs:

I guess I will now be buying SS2, and my wish is that the SS2 DM patch will be forthright in its coming ;)


Thanks 2 U All !!!

[SASQUATCH]

I can pretty much say with 99.9% certainty that SS:FE/SS:SE maps won't be compatible with the new game. It's a brand new engine.

However, I'm sure someone will re-make them in the new editor.Well I guess with the new editor it should be really cool to make up the old maps and even improve it as well.

As for the engine I am sure that it will be alot better.

I am looking forward to it. . . .:thumbs:

[EXEcution]

I really don't know if re-making the 'classic' SS:SE maps will mean that it will be just as much to play them in SS2. Allow me to elaborate.

Firstly none of of yet know what the physics in SS2 will be like and if they will resemble SS2's. If not then making those ramp jumps in LT might not be possible, or jumping off houses in Yod, and the tons of other 'special' jumps in the rest of the maps. I'm sure some tweaks can be made but that doesn't mean playing Little Trouble in SS2 will be as fun or satisfying as in SS:SE.

But this is a new engine so maybe there are many things to work with such as 'amping up' the physics, movement, jumping, etc. I personally like seeing and playing newwer maps. Granted you aren't as familiar with them as the maps you've been playing over and over for years, but learning them isn't hard especially when they are relatively simple like Yodeller.

I'm sure people will be able to make maps and test them out using SS2's default engine and then make the necessary adjustments to make them more playable. I think its a bit too early to discuss this since we don't even have DM yet.

How about this?

What Deatchmatch features in SS2 would you like to see again from SS:SE, what would you like to see change (anything else besides the obvious netcode fix please), and what NEW features would you like to see?

[FUS1ON]

This topic has been covered before but here goes ...

1) An easier server admin method. (something like the Serious Runner program LINK (http://www.gamerunners.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=13))
2) Obviously fix the custom map rotation problem.
3) Auto download of missing map/skin/etc files.
4) Some sort of cheat detection program like Punkbuster.

[T I K]

It would be a Really Great ( and I think necessary ) Feature/Option to beable to Admin SS2 servers as to disable specific Weapons and or also Pups such as SD/Invis If those are to be included in the New SS2 DM :thumbs: :thumbs:

[Asian Invasian]

This topic has been covered before but here goes ...

1) An easier server admin method. (something like the Serious Runner program LINK (http://www.gamerunners.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=13))
2) Obviously fix the custom map rotation problem.
3) Auto download of missing map/skin/etc files.
4) Some sort of cheat detection program like Punkbuster.1). what is the map rotation problem
2). there are cheats?

[T I K]

1). what is the map rotation problem
2). there are cheats?

Teh map rotation problem i c is teh missing maps, mods, etc as like SSE missing auto download of the diff maps, mods, etc that peeps dont have, something like UT does with giving playahs a choice or ability of choosing new map selections!! :thumbs:

There "are" cheats or as a dominating or discriminating gamer might call them, "Severe Game Exploits" Go Go PunkBuster!! :P

Would like to also c the SS2 DM Server Admins to beable to set the POV as in First person or Third person, or just have the game limited to First Person :thumbs:

[EXEcution]

Well I don't think there is a third person option in SS2 so we're safe with 1st. (plz! ! ! no red screen after you get hit)

[SoulReaver]

2). there are cheats? You would know :P Anyways, yeah we really need an admin feature. Also:

1. A kick vote feature
2. Vote map feature
3. A limit to how many characters in a name
4. Please not PB, it lags up games. Maybe some other anti-hack program.

[FUS1ON]

1). what is the map rotation problem
2). there are cheats?

When someone is running a server with a custom made map and it is set for say 8 players and if a player without the map tries to join, it takes up one player position. If 7 try, the server shows to be full when actually no one is in there. If no one is in there playing the score never hits the limit so the map never rotates.

As for the cheats comment, i'm going to take the fifth on that because it would take the thread off course and I think it's going in a good direction. We need it because of what is down the road, not because of what is here today. Think outside of the box. ;)

[Asian Invasian]

When someone is running a server with a custom made map and it is set for say 8 players and if a player without the map tries to join, it takes up one player position. If 7 try, the server shows to be full when actually no one is in there. If no one is in there playing the score never hits the limit so the map never rotates.

As for the cheats comment, i'm going to take the fifth on that because it would take the thread off course and I think it's going in a good direction. We need it because of what is down the road, not because of what is here today. Think outside of the box. ;)
Ya that does get annoying when one person fills 6 slots because hes/shes an idiot.All you have to do is kick that slot 2x and it will clear it.

2nd, if this is an all first person game, which it should be and probably will be... PLEASE get rid of the stupid red screen every time you get hit. Its pretty pointless:cool:

[FUS1ON]

All you have to do is kick that slot 2x and it will clear it.

2nd, if this is an all first person game, which it should be and probably will be... PLEASE get rid of the stupid red screen every time you get hit. Its pretty pointless:cool:

That's fine and dandy if you are there to see it happening. You can't be there 24/7/365 to fix it. Although Slash has some method he uses on the Gold Map server.

I agree on getting rid of the blood splatter. In most FPSs I play 1st person, but in Sam I play 3rd person because of the blood splatter blinding you.

[SoulReaver]

When I used to play SS:SE I never really noticed the blood splatter. It became a natural thing and never messed me up.

[SHOTGUNmaniac]

ive just had an orgasm..........

[ME BIGGD01]

one thing for sure we can look forward to is the team work clearing each level. the game may be fun for a little while and with a miracle they do release a dm patch, we all will be saying great things about croteam:)

[EXEcution]

I REALLY hope you're right Bigg.

[ME BIGGD01]

Thursday July 3, 2008

I am curious if the patch was ever released?

Is anyone still playing SAM2?

[QuietStorm]

Thursday July 3, 2008

I am curious if the patch was ever released?

Is anyone still playing SAM2?

no but I enjoyed the single player modus much, but the online modus is crap.
I don't have it on my pc anymore cause of that:down:

[Wiper]

no but I enjoyed the single player modus much, but the online modus is crap.
I don't have it on my pc anymore cause of that:down:

Same here, someone need to be fired overthere :rolleyes:. Hate Valve or not, but the support for their products is superb :)

[Zed]

Hey uh so this means sam 3 is coming?? Got I got shitloads of emails about it. Lol, or is this just a new patch ? Because If it makes the game 10x better I'll buy it.