The end for XP

[QuietStorm]

what now?

On the 31. January 2008, XP should die out officially.OEM-Versionen before-installed, there can be only then after Vista. Already today, there is only few PC's with XP as operating system. Mostly, Vista Home already is installed.
At the latest 2009, the matter with XP then ate itself at the 31. January, a plain System-Builder program appears that an end-line then moves.
I would like to know now whatdo you think about this situation.

[He Is Legend]

learn to speak and write proper english , get your facts straight too fruit

[Asian Invasian]

I will use XP past Jan 2008 i promise you.

[QuietStorm]

learn to speak and write proper english , get your facts straight too fruit

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[BobtheCkroach]

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That's correct, don't call him out.

That was hard as hell to read, and I'm at a total loss as to where your facts came from.

Vista has taken over and hardly anyone has XP? Where did you get that?

As far as I know, XP is still selling better than Vista, and even if XP was no longer being sold, no way has Vista already overtaken XP.

According to this site: http://vista.blorge.com/2007/07/27/avoid-vista-keep-xp-and-wait-for-windows-7/

Vista holds a whopping 4.52% share of the market compared to XP's 84.33%! Holy Crap! THe Vista invasion has begun! They just announced that they're increasing XP production by 50% and decreasing Vista by 8%.

Unless you're talking about the OS preinstalled on new computers, which you didn't indicate whatsoever. I still wouldn't say "very few XP to almost all vista". Almost any major PC maker is giving you the choice (Dell, HP, Acer, etc) and numbers indicate that the majority want XP. I mean, all of them had taken XP off and have now reinstated it because of demand.

Also, it was announced in September that XP discontinuation would be moved back from Jan 08 to Jun 08, and another move wouldn't surprise me at all. (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09/28/xp_to_remain_on_shelves_until_june_08/1)

[Fifth]

Agreed with US mates.

I also will be using XP cos I've heard from some of my friends that vista sucks and that vista is ok. I'm good with XP so I'm gonna stick with it. ;)

[Nitro]

I'm using XP until forever until Linux finally persuades me want to make a move permanently.

[Asian Invasian]

I'm using XP until forever until Linux finally persuades me want to make a move permanently.

I use linux in my CS class, I like how it works.

[He Is Legend]

Xp

For sure

[ME BIGGD01]

Really in a years time so many things on the software front can change. Linix can become the leading desktop OS by then. Microsoft can fix Vista and listen to the market along with the people who make the market such as us the customer. Apple can be the top dog also as they are suppose to be getting games made for their platform. There is so much time in between and I will stick with XP for now and brush up on Linux. Open source seems to be gaining a lot of momentum. People are fed up with the agreements that has been implemented in WIndows. Hell even XP has become DRM infected along with the so many applications being sold for the OS. This is where Vista fails. For the average user, Visat is like sliced bread but for the above average we will do what we need to to get work done.

Vista is NSA's OS and Bill gates will see the impact of those who refuse to buy into it. We have yet to touch what can be and will be done by computers. MS has the market currently but as more and more people become aware and intelligent of the operating systems available, things will change 10 years down the line. Most people don't even know how to use WIndows so I see nothing different at learning say Linux as their OS. I would definetly offer a linix distro to a person that just want there e-mail or internet browsing as a putpose for a computer.

As far as the english goes, it was bad but readable. It gets hard sometimes tring to figure out what the message is but I won't gripe as if the shoe was on the other foot, I would be unable to get a sentence out on a forum that was not in english.

[Perfect aim]

what now?

On the 31. January 2008, XP should die out officially.OEM-Versionen before-installed, there can be only then after Vista. Already today, there is only few PC's with XP as operating system. Mostly, Vista Home already is installed.
At the latest 2009, the matter with XP then ate itself at the 31. January, a plain System-Builder program appears that an end-line then moves.
I would like to know now whatdo you think about this situation.



I could read it, Erazor ur getting better at english ;)

Also now i don't think vista is the major OS now, Xp still dominates it but well in the future Vista has potential if all the bugs are fixed and it becomes more user friendly. I think its kinda easy to use, and i love its layout its so beautiful.

[Nitro]

There are 3d Linux GUIs that are much more beautiful than Vista.

windows aero vs linux beryl

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ

windows got dominated

[ME BIGGD01]

I could read it, Erazor ur getting better at english ;)

Also now i don't think vista is the major OS now, Xp still dominates it but well in the future Vista has potential if all the bugs are fixed and it becomes more user friendly. I think its kinda easy to use, and i love its layout its so beautiful.


you think it's just the bugs that keep people away? Why don't you google vista and see what others are saying. Ignorance is no exception.

[Perfect aim]

you think it's just the bugs that keep people away? Why don't you google vista and see what others are saying. Ignorance is no exception.


well, from what i heard "bugs" are a major issue for Vista and many of my friends/family say they will wait another year or so until Vista is "bug free". I also read lots of articles about the bugs in vista and how sound drivers were not installed, graphic card issues ect. I know there are other issues too but this is the only issue i know about why people are staying away from vista :)

[Perfect aim]

There are 3d Linux GUIs that are much more beautiful than Vista.

windows aero vs linux beryl

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ

windows got dominated



WOWOW omg that looks so cool lol. I love how when u close a window in linux it like poofs away. And i love that jello affect when u move a window OMG. But wouldn't this be a major system hog? It must take up alot of memory to do all that.

[drop dead gorgeous]

i've never even botherd to look at linux untill i seen that link. F**k microsoft i'm getting linux. does sam work on linux? cuz if so this next check is going on a now OS :D idc if i have to re learn how to use a computer that looks way better than my vista ultimate. and one more question dose linux have a right click because i cant live without that hehe

[ME BIGGD01]

i've never even botherd to look at linux untill i seen that link. F**k microsoft i'm getting linux. does sam work on linux? cuz if so this next check is going on a now OS :D idc if i have to re learn how to use a computer that looks way better than my vista ultimate. and one more question dose linux have a right click because i cant live without that hehe


What do youmean next check? Ubunto is free for you to download and you can simply ;earn from the millions already using it by going to some of their sites. Tons of help and info available.

[drop dead gorgeous]

yeah i fuigured that one out about a half an hour later ROFL but i have not installed yet, i'm going to dig up an old PC and intall their, i have literally like 15 old pc's hehe find em in the trash and fix em up, i give them to people i know who don't own one or just to have another working pc haha

[Caged Anger]

last report I read said SP3 was going to be coming out for XP in a little while but was only goign to include licensing to carry through until 2009

[ME BIGGD01]

yeah i fuigured that one out about a half an hour later ROFL but i have not installed yet, i'm going to dig up an old PC and intall their, i have literally like 15 old pc's hehe find em in the trash and fix em up, i give them to people i know who don't own one or just to have another working pc haha

You would love to live near me when I throw out stuff. I just don't have the room. I think that installing in on an old computer is a great ida and it will advance you with learning. I myself need to get back in to the mix but getting older seems to mean less time for anything. The only reason I come to this forum is to rest and not work.


Also did you ever take those extra sticks of ram out of your system? I think Imentioned to you that you are crippling your system that way. DO some benchmarks with just two matched sticks of ram and them bench it with your current config.

Do yourself a favor and download this cpu-z
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

Take some screenshots of each tab and post them here. I will show you.

[drop dead gorgeous]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x179/sk8instona88/cpu.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x179/sk8instona88/cache.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x179/sk8instona88/mainboard.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x179/sk8instona88/memory.jpg

there you go
i have one 1gig stick of pny and one 512 stick of some unknown brand when i first built it i only had 512 memory than i added the pny but memory for pc3200 is expencive right now and i'm making payments on my car also so i'm barely getting by :( but i'll get the other stick of pny soon

[ME BIGGD01]

Ok just so you know your system is not running in dual channel mode the way you have your memory configed. The memory is also not running in 400MHz. Make note of the frquency. Also your memory is running at 2t mode which will slow you down a bit. Your system is still fast enough I am sure and probably did not notice much but overall you are probably slowing your system down 5%-8%. It all depends what you do with your system.

Look for a program called sandra lite which can do some benchmarks including memory bandwidth. Test the way your system is and then test withjust the 1 gig stick in. also take screenies of cpuz with just one stick in. That's a decent board you have there. I gave one to a friend. Your bios looks a bit old as well and may want to update it.

[drop dead gorgeous]

yeah but updating bios is a scary prosess for me last time i did that i messed up..but now adays their flash. the other stick of pny 1 gig is about $110 right now at best buy but i'm sure i could find the same one online for cheeper or maybe i'll go with some corsair, i donno depends on the budget. i may just buy a new system this board is a little old, alltho the guy i bought it from is begging me to buy it back he got a new asus board the one with all the copper heatsinks with pretty snowfakes on it and he said my board outperforms that one anyday :D maybe i'll put my system up for sale haha what would you say this would go for?

and i know i'm not runnign in dual channel i don't have the money for another 1 gig stick, btw everything you just told me i already knew :D sorry to burst your bubble, the only thing i'm not up to date on is video cards maybe i'll do a bit of reserch. i dont understand the pixle pipelines and all that mumbo jumbo hehe.

[ME BIGGD01]

Umm I have pretty little snow flakes onmy heatsink (google my board) and I would have to say it depends on the processor.

As you the chipset is about the same in performance and no need to update it. The only difference is the memory and socket for the chip and if you compare the cpu t socket 939 will be faster than am2 cpu. the problem is you can not put the new phenom chip in a 939 board. Does that matter? No because you can get a dual core chip with a high clock speed for both. I say just buy some memory and let your system be. the difference is small and at this time there is no need to change anything.

[drop dead gorgeous]

alrighty maybe a dual core prosessor too?