borderlands

[PJ'l_Master]

what does that do exactly?

and how does the x4 work and stuff for special weapons, ive not figured that out.

as for the weapons, i havent used a shotgun lately, but largely because i found an SMG that shoots 4 rounds at a time, with a decent rate of fire. I mostly prefer anything made by jakobs

[JIMINATOR]

the hack above is to display an extra line in the attributes listing (5 instead of 4). very useful for comparing "identical" weapons. Weapons can be compared in several ways.
first damage, may be a single number or per pellet, with the number of pellets listed, say 10 * 120, = 1200. Then there is rate of fire, another multiplier, to get damage per second. Also have to consider clip size and reload speed in that number.
the x1-4 is for elemental effects. Different ones work for different enemies. I think the elemental effects will stack, or at least corruption does. No real damage is listed, but the x4 elemental weapons can kick ass.

IMO the SMGs are useless, unless you have an elemental, with class multipliers (lilith), then the stacking and multipliers can make them work.

[PJ'l_Master]

Personally i love SMG's, but as mordecai i have tons of extra crit damage and always aim for the grape

[EXEcution]

Is this in any way similar to Serious Sam (SP), with a mix of RPG elements?

[JIMINATOR]

uh, not in the slightest?

you can coop with up to 3 other people, or even play SP.
The goal is to complete missions, some 120+, picking up guns and loot along the way.

there are 4 character classes, each with 3 specialty trees. the specialties enhance their abilities in various ways. You can hit level 50, that allows you to hit the tops of 2 trees and a bit of the last one.

The graphics are really phenomenal, the distance blurring is the best I have seen of any game. The PC version has some issues with coop, they used gamespy and the router has to be configured to pass through the UT ports in order for people to join your game.

Otherwise it is pretty awesome and addictive.

[EXEcution]

What have you say about the negative feedback regarding the game's abrupt ending good sir!

[JIMINATOR]

eh, meaningless. there are 2 defined playthroughs, and you can always go to different areas and kill things, most of the bosses will respawn, just not in a mission context. the second playthrough is more interesting than the first, everything is much harder. Regardless of playthrough you can kill the final boss then go and complete the missions...

[EXEcution]

eh, meaningless. there are 2 defined playthroughs, and you can always go to different areas and kill things, most of the bosses will respawn, just not in a mission context. the second playthrough is more interesting than the first, everything is much harder. Regardless of playthrough you can kill the final boss then go and complete the missions...

Alright. I'll go and pick this up tonight. You convinced me.

EDIT: Also accept my friend invite dammit.

[EXEcution]

Just picked this up. Fun game. Definitely like the Diablo-like features and the graphics are a nice change.

[EXEcution]

Has anyone else been having issues with the graphics after installing the new patch? Namely shadows, smoke, and water effects.